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Capital Punishment Under Siege

09/24/2021 - 11:17 by Anonymous (not verified)
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by Alex Cuff/PNN Newsbrief Editor

In the last hours of his term, Republican Governor George Ryan of Illinois commuted the sentences of 163 men and 4 women to terms of life imprisonment, or less, declaring the execution system to be “broken.” This is amazing from a man who entered office as a capital punishment advocate and who voted in 1977 to revive the death penalty. "The facts that I have seen in reviewing each and every one of these cases raised questions not only about the innocence of people on death row, but about the fairness of the death penalty system as a whole," Governor Ryan said this afternoon. "Our capital system is haunted by the demon of error: error in determining guilt and error in determining who among the guilty deserves to die." This is the largest such emptying of death row in history.

This isn’t the first time that a governor has emptied death row as he departs office, but his action overshadows the 22 men Gov. Lee Cruce of Oklahoma spared in 1915, the 15 death sentences Gov. Winthrop L Rockefeller of Arkansas commuted in 1970 and the five clemency petitions Gov. Toney Anaya of New Mexico granted in 1986. It unfortunately also draws attention away from the fact that on Tuesday, Texas executed it’s first inmate in 2003 - Samuel Gallamore, 31 years old. Capital punishment opponents hope that this gesture will lead the rest of the country to reconsider whether America wants to continue to stand behind the industry of state-sanctioned death.

One day after the commutation of the sentences, Ryan also pardoned four condemned men outright. The four men Ryan pardoned had been condemned based on confessions elicited in a notorious Chicago police station that used torture to exhort confessions from suspects. Three of those inmates spent their first afternoon of freedom attending the governor's speech at Northwestern University Law School, whose Center on Wrongful Convictions led the call for blanket clemency.

For abolitionists, the fight is far from over. For nearly two weeks, attorneys, death penalty experts and family members of prisoners and victims testified before members of the board to make their case for and against commutations. This is certainly a sign that folks working to stop capital punishment are being heard, their work effectual. The fight against putting inmates on death row is also a fight against poverty and racism.

More than 75% of those on federal death row are non-white and of the 156 federal death penalty prosecutions approved by the Attorney General since 1988, 74% of the defendants were non-white. Over 90 percent of defendants charged with capital crimes are indigent and cannot afford to hire an experienced criminal defense attorney to represent them. They are forced to use inexperienced, underpaid court-appointed attorneys.

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Treatment of Poor is Cruel but Not Unusual

09/24/2021 - 11:17 by Anonymous (not verified)
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by Alex Cuff/PNN Newsbrief Editor

The ACLU filed a federal lawsuit on February 19th accusing the city of Los Angeles of cruel and unusual punishment for ticketing and arresting people, who sit, sleep or lie on public sidewalks at night. The ordinance which has led to increased arrests and citations prohibits “sitting, lying or sleeping on any public sidewalk, street alley or other public way at anytime anywhere in the city”. It does nothing to provide housing or mental health services to the persons who are being “moved on” – the idea is to put the persons without homes out of view of the public.

Although this harassment by the city is certainly cruel, it’s unfortunately not so unusual. The criminalization of persons without houses is an epidemic. One day after the suit was filed, persons sleeping on Towne Avenue between 4th and 5th Streets were woken by Los Angeles police officers, told to ‘move on’ and then watched as all of their belongings were swept into a pile and hauled off to a dump.

LA City Councilwoman, Jan Perry, whose district includes skid row, says efforts are necessary: “I morally cannot support a street culture that allows behavior that is self-destructive to the individual and harmful to the community. I think it’s unhealthy and it’s degrading.” Unhealthy and degrading for who? The business interests downtown who are in full support of the ordinance?

Penalties for violating the ordinance can include fines or jail time. For a homeless person living on assistance of no more than $220 a month, paying a fine would mean nothing left for food or shelter. Patricia and George Vinson were cited in December for sleeping on the street. The missed the bus that would have taken them to a shelter in South Los Angeles and had no money for a hotel. The lawsuit being filed by the ACLU seeks to prohibit the enforcement of the ordinance from 9pm to 6:30am and any time of the day or night when a person suffers from a medical condition.

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Freedom to assemble yet location restricted?

09/24/2021 - 11:17 by Anonymous (not verified)
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by Alex Cuff/PNN Newsbrief

From NYC Indymedia

A federal judge in Manhattan has denied antiwar demonstrators the right to march in front of the U.N! U.S. District Court Judge Barbara Jones concluded that heightened security concerns posed by up to 100,000 protesters would threaten the public safety and security of the U.N. In her 26-page ruling, Jones said that the First Amendment guaranteed the right to protest but did not ensure the right to march.

She noted that demonstrators could hold a stationary rally sanctioned by the city at Dag Hammarskjold Plaza, located at 47th Street between First and Second Avenues. An overflow crowd could gather two blocks north along 49th Street between First and Second. Spokespersons for the antiwar group, United for Peace and Justice, said the group wanted to hold a rally and march past the United Nations on Saturday. They wanted to gather at the plaza, then march down First Avenue toward 42nd Street, going across town on 42nd Street and turning uptown on Seventh Avenue to head to Central Park, where a rally would be held.

However, Jones cited heightened security concerns as a reason the city was justified in denying a permit. "The court finds that the heightened security concerns posed by an unorganized large-scale march threatens the city's interest in maintaining the public safety," she said. She said that the city had denied permits for all demonstrations since September 11 and said that the UN was a "uniquely sensitive" area, noting that it had once been targeted by terrorists. But as the bottom line is always the…bottom line, Mayor Bloomberg told a news conference today that protesters could rally and march outside the un if they "payed for police overtime."

Lawyers for the New York Civil Liberties Union, who sued the city on behalf of the antiwar group, argued that the city had granted permits to other large groups for marches such as the St. Patrick's Day Parade and the Puerto Rican Day Parade. Christopher Dunn, a lawyer for the New York Civil Liberties Union, said the group would immediately appeal Jones's ruling. "There is no question in our mind that the First Amendment entitles people to march in the street to protest their opposition to a possible American war in Iraq," he said. "We believe this decision is wrong and intend to appeal it immediately."

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Mom's Day/Other Things. As in Rest and Getting Out of the city a bit.

09/24/2021 - 11:17 by Anonymous (not verified)
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Its always a good day either
visiting the city or being out of
it for a few days.

After all how much
perfection of can a guy take?

by Joe B.

Well, Mother’s Day is over Father’s Day coming up soon.

Leaving the city for awhile is like a roman holiday.

Sometimes one must get out of ones living space to visit others spaces.

Besides when I’m out of the city the stress is also left behind for a day or two.

I wish it was longer but for now a few days will have to do.

Say, [Hypothetically] I wrote a book or two turning fiction, non fiction, mystery or which ever genre into a real career.

How would I find rest after being on plane, trains, and/or car junkets riding, sleeping through other cites and signing autographs.

I’d first call the agent, publisher, publicist informing them that I need a few weeks rest and relaxation before getting back on the grind of book promotion.

My cell phone, land phone, PC’s, (both portable laptop and desktop home bound computer.)

I may visit friends, if married mow the lawn, play with the children too.

Mostly having quiet days doing nothing at all besides various types of Yoga both physical and mental disciplines further calming me, dating women if I’m still single.

Then to work of signing autographs, speaking to people about the book or books written, offered commercial work and/or story ideas for a next book to work on.

I don’t know if I’ll ever be a successful writer or if it happens how to handle the fame, adulation, my anonymity for a time gone.

But I do know overwork is no way to live and whenever one has a chance to catch a breath do it.

It may never happen but its good practice to stay grounded so my ego don’t swell up my head and I act like a fool.

Ever see the commercial when a group of guys in a car are driving down a highway and one guy says "Duck!" and there is a real duck on the wet road and they swerve to avoid it?

Years ago it would have been crunch, thud, or splat and one more bloody, flattened, dead duck.

In the car liquid spills as the car flips over and two guys pants are splattered one guy’s pants is completely clean despite the spill while the first one is wet.

If not the first its an early use of nanotechnology.
(I’m building up to some- thing worry not folks)

Nanotechnology [nanometre scale, which is about one billionth of a metre or about 80,000 times smaller than the diameter of a human hair.

If you divided the edge of a dime 1,000 times and divided each sliver another 1,000 times, you would reach the nanometre scale.

Last updated Friday, Nov. 8, 2002.

Information by www.betterhumans.com/.

Anyone remember "Deep Red" about life saving/extending technology hidden in cigarettes manufactured secretly on earth?

The cigarettes are radically different unlike anything produced on earth by tobacco growers.

First they don’t poison but improve, lengthen the lives of people smoking them.

They also regenerate dead tissues using advanced cellular regeneration.

I read in one of those weird newspapers you know "living vampires, Hitler’s Clone, or frozen Viking flash frozen 1,200 years discovered in a glacier.

True or not nano-technology will be one of many seemingly miracle sciences that will subtly change our lives in ways unimagined.

I’m absently thinking of this Thursday night waiting for a 49 bus on Van Ness and Market Street as cold winds blow.

All weather clothes instantly adjust to summer/ winter/spring/fall climates monitoring human body adjusting to his or her skin temperature.

How about liquid gel capsules with both minerals, trace minerals, vitamins in them once taken orally or by injection nano machines supply human bodies the exact balance of all the substances by the day, week, month, or year.

Personally, I’d like natural or improved artificial melanin safely built up in me making me darker and protecting me from ultraviolet rays.

As an added benefit it could also aid in execrating cellular repair on molecular level becoming routine as taking aspirin or vitamins are now.

Is it me or are we standing, heading backward, or standing still in technology in spite of Nanotechnology and Genome Sciences advances?

Please inform me if right or tell me if I’m not. Bye.

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Prop N's end? …He had a million dollar media campaign, we had people.

09/24/2021 - 11:17 by Anonymous (not verified)
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Prop N is challenged in court and…loses

by Tiny, Clive Whistle and Dee/PoorNewsNetwork

Gavin Newsome had a million dollar media campaign, we had people. He had the power and glory of the Getty’s… we had poor folks that are fighting the slings and arrows of our constant struggles to survive, thrive and stay alive. He had most of the mainstream media, We had the independent media and its grassroots base He had the power of a board supervisor. We had advocates who dedicate their lives to the struggles of civil and human rights. And finally, we had truth and he had the hand over fist lies of a well-funded impending mayors race.

So what happened? Well, two brave women, Nora Roman and Linda Pettye represented by attorneys from The Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights brought on a lawsuit to enforce the general assistance standards of aid and care established by The SF Board of Supervisors and to refrain from implementing the challenged provisions of Proposition N

Specifically, the changes that would reduce the cash assistance given to houseless San Franciscans from the already meager $320.00 to $59.00 per month, with the alleged proviso that those monies would go to pay for food and shelter beds. Now anyone who is a reader of PNN and The SF Bayview knows there was no guarantee that there would be a shelter bed for these recipients in part because there aren’t enough shelter beds in existence now and the ones that there are are already being fought for by the several thousand houseless folks in the City, so the root of this “law” was based on lies and mistruths. (See Economic and racial cleansing #101 by PNN)

The dispute is based on the fact that although the measure was approved by voters – the “care and aid” standards for houseless San Franciscans are “clear and unambiguous” in that they are in fact set by The SF board of Supervisors and a very similar legislation was presented to the Board in 2002 and was struck down.

The proponents of Prop N argued that in fact the law was not that clear and could be established by the local legislative process. There were several other cases and issues cited in this landmark case (please see The Prop N Case)

Finally, Honorable Judge Quidachay (California Superior Court) ruled in favor of the petitioners (Roman and Pettye) that they were on point and that the standards for care were delegated by The SF Board of Supervisors.

But the scariest reality is while The Federal Government spends16 billion on “faux emergencies” in Seattle aka Homeland Security’s new project causing endless budget shortfalls in local and state governments across the nation; the corporate media, the power, the money and the alleged caregivers of the poor themselves, SF Department of Human Services(DHS) are still frenetically figuring out how to get around this ruling and target the poor as was proudly reported Tuesday to the SF Chronicle by DHS representatives.

“They are still implementing prop N before there’s a prop N as we speak” , Shelter correspondent, Clive Whistle reported to me today, “ Sendin’ folks all over town to get fingerprinted and photographed and telling all of us disabled folks and any seniors in the shelters that this ruling does not protect us and we’re still gonna lose our beds”

After hearing from Clive, we contacted Oren Sellstrom, one of the attorneys who worked on the case to ask him how exactly the ruling would protect folks, “ We are not totally clear yet how it will affect other residents of the shelters – but the first thing it does is to not let DHS take the cost of a shelter, food and services out of people’s GA checks”

The day ended for PNN reporters when we went to the pro-Newsom rally that proceeded the City Council meeting, which was eloquently referred to by PNN reporter Joseph Bolden as “a 1930’s like fascist mob” . We all became very scared not so much because we were surrounded by hundreds of people believing the words of this privileged politician without questioning any of his facts, but because they were so utterly clueless. “I voted for Prop N cause something has to be done about the homeless problem” ,stated a Mr. Wyn Johnson loudly when I asked this Newsom supporter how he felt about the fact that this “didn’t solve the homeless problem, but in fact made it worse by evicting seniors and disabled folks from shelter beds and onto the street – he replied, “ Well, I don’t believe that” and looked away from me and toward the glistening Mr. Newsom for more vague statements.

I think I completely tuned out when Newsom said to the salivating crowd, “ this is only the first step…..”

The City Council meeting that followed the rally was filled with the scholarship of several advocates like Steve Williams (POWER) and Paul Boden (Coalition on Homelessness) as well as the proposal of three “homeless” legislations from three different Board Supervisors- stay tuned for next weeks PNN report on where we go from here

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Jerry-Fication

09/24/2021 - 11:17 by Anonymous (not verified)
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Poor, artists and Oakland residents protests Mayor Jerry Brown’s housing policies

by Kathleen Kirkwood/Staff Writer, OAKLAND TRIBUNE

OAKLAND – Mayor Jerry Brown, loyal supporter of the arts, wasn’t applauding Wednesday’s live performance from his balcony seat at City Hall.

Two dozen recently evicted artists and supporters set up a temporary tent city outside City Hall to Illustrate their concerns about the “Jerry-Fication” of Oakland.

Costumed artists carried signs, others played bongos and one sat in the corner of a painted cardboard house.

They were protesting what they see as Brown’s support for gentrification of Oakland’s low income neighborhoods, where live- work lofts were once both cheap and easy to come by.

Some went face-to-face with Brown over his policies in a heated exchange in the mayor’s office, during a press conference.

“There are a lot of artists that have nowhere else to go,” Lisa Garcia, a recent evictee and founder of POOR Magazine, told the mayor. She urged him to use his clout to promote just cause eviction laws, saying Oakland tenants needed protection from the surging real estate market.

Brown countered that he didn’t favor such “rigid” laws. “I don’t think someone should stay somewhere 30 days and be allowed to stay there for the rest of their life.”

At one point Brown told a protester, “The city is not going to be slumified – it’s going to be improved.”

Someone asked him, “You think low-income housing is slumifi- cation?” and Brown replied, “No.”

The mayor asked Garcia to provide him with a list of recent evictees, saying he could see whether there was any way to help them.

The mayor said the city is preparing to roll out an affordable housing strategy in coming weeks, amounting to $100 million from several sources of funding.

The performance and tent city lasted about an hour before being dismantled. City officials didn’t intervene or confront the protesters.

Most of the artists wearing “evicted” labels at the event are residents of a 10-unit building at 1255 26th St. in West Oakland. Those residing in three of the units were recently given 30-day eviction notices to be out by the end of the month.

Others are worried they may be next.
John Protopappas, whose property management company, Madison Park, manages the building for owner Mak Siu Shuen, said the reason for the evictions is that the three units are being repaired.

But Nils Frykdahl, a musician who has lived in a loft here for 10 years, said the repairs had been needed for years. Many artists fixed up their lofts, he said.

Frykdahl and others suspect the owner is fixing up his property because West Oakland has become more desirable of late.

Frykdahl was wearing a styrofoam cube on his head – fitting into his painted cardboard house.

Although he looked in Oakland, Frykdahl said he couldn’t find anything affordable. He’s considering moving into a converted stable in San Leandro, he said.

“I don’t think it’s possible to stop the march of money into his area.” “I voted for Jerry because he said he would support artists. I don’t want to move.”

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Grafitti as Art

09/24/2021 - 11:17 by Anonymous (not verified)
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by Tiny

It was 8:30 on a hot Sunday morning at Venice Beach in LA. The sun had been out long enough to cook the asphalt into a black, steaming stew.

Warm tar vapors tose out of that simmering curry. On any other day it would have been too late already to achieve the special quiet an artist needs. But in Venice Beach, on a Sunday morning, only the pigeons were awake. And the saves lightly rippling against the shore.

A medley of swishing palm fronds and the thumps of the occasional runner blended into a cacophony of morning-nature as I swept the canvas with my strokes. I was far from the loud sounds of home, school, poverty and stress that filled my life on every other day.

Suddenly, I heard the low rumbling of an approaching car. The spray can in my hand dropped tohe ground, registering a tinggggggg. I looked up at my work, my art work, on the wall in front of me. I heard the loud ca-chunk of a thick door slam behind me, the heels of heavy boots hit the asphalt and then, “You’re under arrest.”

That was 13 years ago, and I was 14. I was taken to the police station, booked and released. If the Juvenile Crime Prevention Act as now proposed in Washington had been in place, I would have been tried and convicted as an adult, charged with a felony instead of a misdemeanor (under the act, $400 damage is automatically a felony) and served “hard” time for this art “crime.”

Consider the case of Lance Dolan, the 20-year-old San Francisco co “tagger”/artist currently serving a 16-month jail term for vandalism (read graffiti) under a sort-of three strikes law for repeat offenders. The idea is that if you remove young gang members from the streets by incarcerating them, you separate them from the influence of gangs. But this idea fails. The organization of gangs is most powerful in penal institutions and, just to survive, a mere gang wannabe/graffiti artist must become a full-fledged gang member while serving a jail sentence.

And so, the nagging questions: What is art? What makes something “vandalism” instead of site-specific public art?

For example, what of the art of Rigo, known for his large, single word messages on the walls of large San Francisco buildings?

What of Barry McGee, known for his graffiti, praised and sanctioned by art critics? How do we know “tagging” from a “text-based art piece” such as the conceptual work of Barbara Kruger?

And how should we look at fashion designers who borrow the look of the streets when creating $3,000 graffiti-inspired jeans?

Perhaps the difference is resources and education. I and most of my very poor friends never had the financial resources to go to art school, one of the channels to recognition in the visual arts, validation and a chance to leap inside the margins of acceptability.

My lack of access to an education, luck or financial resources ensured that my art would remain on the “outside” – and reliant on the art critiques of the Gang Task Force. My art and the art of Lance Dolan remain illegal, unsanctioned and undeserving of any title except “vandalism.”

Tagging: The act of writing of one’s name, initials or a message, i.e. a tag.

That’s a definition, but is tagging art? To which I answer, is Dada artist Marchel Duchamp’s found art urinal, which he entitled “Fountain” and entered in a 1913 art show, art?

What of the abstract expressionists in the 60s who splashed large – some would say ugly – globs of paint on a canvas and called it art? Was that more “art” than taggers’ works because the abstract expressionists owned the canvases – and often sold them for several thousand dollars – and taggers do not?

Other important questions are: What or who determines that the absence of graffiti on a wall makes it desirable? In other words, that the public lack of color, shape and form is the way things should be?

In indigenous cultures throughout history as well as in Greco-Roman times, it was normal to use walls for messages, images, the recording of history and art.

How have we created a society that is so enthralled with the cleanliness, blankness or whiteness of everything? The homogenous corporate aesthetic has become our norm.

Nationwide, communities converge for the “great neighborhood graffiti clean-up.” On one such graffiti clean-up in The City recently, a cleaner admitted that as soon as he cleaned the wall, someone would “tag” it.

Bu, never fear, the cleaner said, he would be there to “fix” it. Could it be that, in an odd way, a new form of marginal collaboration is in progress, or is it just another example of Americans working for the corporate vision, even if by default?

Solutions? Use some of the financial resources directed at gang task forces and building more prisons into well-developed art programs for inner city and poor rural school districts.

And, as we approach the millennium, we need to re-think our society’s notion of what is art and what is canvas. Otherwise, we will continue to incarcerate our most determined art-makers who are attempting, as are all artists, to be seen, heard and recognized.

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Mob Majority? Have we gone all the way back to mid 1800's?

09/24/2021 - 11:17 by Anonymous (not verified)
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What's the rush Newbie?

Is run for mayor jump-start
for an even higher office and I
don't mean Senator or Governor.

Before his feel-good campaign...

washes over you readup, study the guy,
his and personal/business connections.

by Joe B.

Mob Majority?


Maybe its hearing Mr. Gavin Newsome, a glossy, glammed up, Supervisor ‘pol gunning for a quickie mayoral win with his "Care Not Cash" Initiative best known as Proposition N.

Have I seen this before or possibly being born with a "veil" My mama not me.
It may be genetic because I’m having lousy day mares
[daytime nightmares] about the CNC keening of the crowd, there’s something slightly ominous about it.

Yes, that CNC recently struck down by The Honorable Judge Quidachay.

Prop(N) You know the one; instead of money earned by poor folks on GA (General Assistance) and Work-fare its redirected into some general slush fund while houseless individuals and families now have $59 dollars in cash to by whatever they can while living in what use to be emergency shelter’s becomes a semi or permanent condition?

In exchange for monies given up Services for job vocational training, education, or upgrades (relearning)jobs people had worked at before becoming houseless.

Funny thing though, the services hyped as the main component in Mr. G’s (not the former New York, Mayor 'Guli guy).
but Gavin who traveled to the Golden Apple and returning with his 23-Point Plan.

As we now know there are lots of worms squirming in the shining city as people formally employed now live underground in the very bowels of New York.

Its like the old ‘Fritz Lang’ classic "Metropolis" or and updated "The Time Machine" with Morlocks and Eloi.

Guess who’s the beautiful people living above ground and their fate each night sundown arrives?

Today I personally saw how it might begin happening!

Supervisor Gavin Newsome had a love in today with like minded people enthralled with his "Care Not Cash" slogan.

"Its hard, but we need a change" I paraphrase but its essentially what he said to his constituents.

Tiny and I from POOR Magazine and a few brave people from Coalition on Homelessness and organizations I didn’t get the names of others who braved crowds wishing Newsome well.

"We need more bullhorns." I say looking at the people-for-Newsome.

It didn’t feel right, like an ache in the pit of my belly began to churn much different than hunger pangs.

When Tiny heard about Newsome’s continuing bid for a flash finish mayor win using working poor and house-lessness she is hopping mad and tried calling up troops to be combat the ‘Nukem ‘um Newsome’s love fest over at City Hall, me, I thought we needed critical mass of people to be there for an even fight but its almost too late to gather our like minded anti-Newsome forces.

Weaving in and out of the crowd I see frustrated people who love their city to the point of voting in sweeping changes in a misguided, muddle headed thinking of saving their city from the so called masses of crack dealing, drinking, drug addicted houseless, jobless nomads.

One slight, minor problem

Could that be next? No assets no votes?

Suddenly! It hit me when a man of color says to me
"We Are The People!"

I took issue with that
"You Are Not The People, you’re not all the people."
The nerve, The absolute gall to say because they’re in a larger group than we, that they consist of all the voices that day.

Obvious they don’t know or read human his/herstory or worse don’t care about the fact that this nation was founded, fought, blood spilled, lives lost by a determined minority not the majority that finally saw the light long after others tried dragging them into it.

These people I likened to a mob wore clean clothes, slacks, and ties though didn’t turn violent the one voice of Newsome guiding them like dodo’s to extinction or lemmings over a cliff reminds me of some one else and their famous poem before he died in World War II.

It was about speaking up but since he didn’t when the German’s in that war came for him no one was there to speak on his behalf.

Anyone know of whom I speak?

It looks like working poor individuals, houseless and mentally ill are being set up as new/old targets of opportunity.

Remember Coalition on Homeless worker Mr. Willie Warren, a big robust man was attacked by two or three men last year for being a homeless advocate being black was just a bonus.

Are these modern day brown shirted thugs believing in Newsom’s plan?

They may be in the minority but Man! if that’s a taste of what’s to come I dread this guy as mayor or any higher office he aspires too.

Folks we have an early heads up, find out everything we can about this guy and all is connections.

I might not have a veil like mama but "Damn, he make my sense twinge and its a bad feeling.

That’s all I’m going to say. Bye,

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C-Phone Dates Pt.2. It could be called Hidden Cell Phone Rules girls, women know about. Guess who dosen't?

09/24/2021 - 11:17 by Anonymous (not verified)
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Arbitrary rules solidified into
mores always subject to change when
re-named "weaker" sex figures it out.

Old romance game sped up but not all
young boy's, women, men, or girl's will play.

by Joe B.

Last time I was trying to dispel some myths about handsome and ugly guys, talking about cell phones as yet another emotion packed game most women experts at.

I don’t know the protocol of with c-phones.

Though I have it on good authority that its a psycho/emotional power play.

What I’ve observed is sketchy at best not having a cell phone of my own but have seen, how others use them.

One glaring observation, while walking on sidewalks, in cars, in café’s, or restaurants when these phones ring, beep, sing songs, buzz, or vibrate (except for vibrating ones) are disruptive especially at weddings, in movie-opera theaters or any venue where artistic or public endeavors where people gather as a community.

Some people walk slower crossing streets and unlike home where one can loudly speak without being overheard in the street one can get hit by a car.

I hear people talking loudly about supposedly private conversations.

My main discovery in people dating with cell phones in toe.

The cell phone can be used as ongoing commentary on how good/bad a date is going while women or young girls are on dates.

Most men are clueless at being no-second-date-guy.
I never assume a woman will have a second date with me but when it happens it’s a pleasant surprise.

Remember, I mentioned a psycho/emotional context, its confusing but here goes: as usual men and women give out their phone numbers if they like someone sometimes they give each other fake numbers to get rid of those they don’t really care to know at the moment.

It all changes with C-phones.

In bars/dance clubs, or where ever people congregate it still holds true except women can control their love life by handing out their numbers to as many men as they can.

The reason, they give their number is so men become emotionally invested in calling
"We don’t ask, threaten, or force them to call, they just do, its not our fault they get emotional about it."

Yet, isn’t odd that if the men women gave their numbers to don’t call they at a predetermined time (girls/women) get angry at them not calling while describing those that do as "weak, lead by their "smaller heads."

The male sex loses both ways in this phone game condemned because they do want to hook up with women who may or may not necessarily want to date but collect numbers as part of an elaborate "How many can I string along game."

Like the movie "War Games"

When the super computer says "Curious, the best way to win is not to play the game."

Men do learn not to play, loneliness may be a result for awhile but soon a few of the opposite sex also leaves the tired game.

Its like a stacked deck of cards women play with full of aces, kings, queens, ten’s, and deuces.

Men have all low losing cards.

But if men begin leaving the tables empty with women holding all these cards they turn into colorful useless jokers.

Men don’t have to play women’s games as women rarely play men’s men can do the same.

But there are always new players uninformed getting caught in the game they must be warned off earlier and earlier until the phone card game becomes less attractive to both player and played.

Now they may not be thinking that like that at the moment but it happens because men let it happen and woman say their blameless will keep stoking the fire keeping men like moths drawn to light.

All things being equal men do the same more bed partner’s to chose from too.

The Hook: Total control of the dating rules, a c-phone locks in that control even though women say "I’m not doing anything but give numbers to men."

Men feel they must call anyway its up to woman to pass or fail, deciding when or if they call. This is control.

And you wonder why I’m always get all the rejections out of the way so you can have the 1 or 2 yes’s that really see you as you are and is serious and not just play a bed-good by-females.

Women as usual are better at it because they use both left and right sides of hemisphere’s of the brain.

Most men either because of societal or cultural upbringing are trapped with one side more dominant than the other.

I believe men can do this too if we keep switching right to left as women do.

As with everything there always exceptions to every rule.

So, they have lots of male’s to choose from and men have a two or three days to call or they’re deleted from the phones memory.

No fuss, pain, or heated arguments just off-line.

Thing is, for many its mere dalliance to show how desirable they are without doing the actual deed, pre-electron notches of potential lovers.

Men can play the game one of three ways.

1) Play it the way women have it now advantage their’s.

2) Do the same as woman advantage to male’s.

3) Go to same bars/clubs or where ever both sexes mix, see which women collect phone number’s then refuse playing any of the games.

What women and men really think of all the tricks of emotional in-jokes on evolving cell phone power plays? ….Bye

PS, more to come in Pt. 3.

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C-Phone Dates Pt.#3 The Phone Thing, Men Don't Try Understanding It, But Run Fast and No Redials.

09/24/2021 - 11:17 by Anonymous (not verified)
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Win Win For Women
Lose Lose For Men.

Men, Learn Phone Rules
then change and add some of
your own.

by Joe B.

Ok, Pt. 3 of C-Phones Dating

Getting to the ‘um, meat of the issue on C-phone dating or dates.

You probably know of the blocking features on c-phones where both parties know who or whom is being blocked.

All I can figure is it’s kind of an electronic dog house for men or anyone else making serious errors in relationships.

It goes like this "He knows he messed up with me seeing another girls, women, a big blow out argument or missing some important event; so I’ve block access on my phone."

Of course this guy is now in an endless loop blocked by a pissed off girlfriend, he keeps dialing up anyway which is what she says she doesn’t want but makes sure he still calls.

Paradoxically, the guy might decide to disconnect, unhook himself from his self inflicted hell not knowing the relationship is still viable in her eyes but not saying anything to the guy until she’s ready.

"Enough, phone blocks, I cannot see or call her fine, time to re-circulate, [date again] she’s angry won’t talk, talks cheap, wants action.

My action, date all her girlfriends I can ‘cause I’ve no time to pine, or worry.

I don’t know if its over and since she won’t tell me maybe it is; "F-it then."

If a guy is in emotional turmoil and yet he can stop it by simply not calling or emailing the girl and drop it for a while unless she or he’s far away and it’s the only way of communicating the poor guy is screwed.

See how this can backfire on women because revenge feels delicious having someone dangle on tender hooks, tell other friends about how he’s so into me, it’s great having that much power over any human being especially when dating boy, young men, or casual dating, laughing, joking to gal pals on the phone she really stuck it to him and will keep doing as long as he into to her, yes lets hear for girl power.

But guys have an option too either stop, calling, get on with their lives which the girlfriend really want she likes or loves him but still want but to keep the guy suffering to teach him a painful emotional lesson.

But as time goes by guys figure "No More, if she want’s it that way fine and he goes about his business gradually forgets her name, phone number, address because another woman has entered her life.

I know, women say oh well, no most don’t they get angry because the guy moved on when in her reality she’s suppose to publicly humiliate him before dumping him complete with water or hot meal in his lap or over his head

Problem is when he disengages from the girlfriend going about his business other women may drop into his life.

This may be one of the reasons women will get back together and everything is fine then brake up with him publicly.

Guy’s, if you ever dump anyone don’t make up and go back, be ready for re-dumping this goes for girls, young women too also guys, gals, don’t go back no matter how you ache for them especially if you’ve broken up with each other many times before.

That’s what activities are for while the girlfriends away and what do you young girls and women do when their men are away different thins or whatever they want too.

Men learn slow but we do learn. What gets me is as soon as men do find someone to relate to and cherish it is then some women will start testing them its almost if their trying to break the relationship especially if its going well, too well.

I refuse to play the romance games because fun, excitement, lust, sex, and crazy making out is great but is it worth losing that someone because at the time they didn’t look or act cool.

When men really do reveal themselves to women many are taken aback, some immediately shy away which means their as much cowards when an emotionally, intelligent, and mature man steps up to the plate being real.

Like I said to one women "If she really met a mature, emotionally, intellectually, sensitive, balanced Man… in other words her perfect mate she'd run away from him because of shock.

Her carefully constructed thoughts on men now in not shattered has become less firm and it’d be worse the more they multiplied as she grew older.

Too bad women, men do sometimes have to reject so many mates all the bed-fun they had is a phase as real adult(s) wait in the wings find others while some still play being part of the with-it crowd.

But as we all know with-it crowds come and go but truly finding someone even if they’re not perfect who one can relax with is the heaven most people seek.

No one is listening so the games go on luckily most men and woman do want to find someone to share their lives with let the lonely gamers find the truth in their own time lets just hope its not to late… Bye.

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